diff --git a/scripts/loadup-db-from-full.sh b/scripts/loadup-db-from-full.sh
index 8b368d50..6517fb3e 100755
--- a/scripts/loadup-db-from-full.sh
+++ b/scripts/loadup-db-from-full.sh
@@ -9,6 +9,13 @@ fi
 
 loadup_start
 
+SYSOUT="${MEDLEYDIR}/loadups/full.sysout"
+if [ ! -f "${SYSOUT}" ];
+then
+  echo "Error: cannot find ${SYSOUT}.  Exiting."
+  exit 1
+fi
+
 cat >"${cmfile}" <<"EOF"
 "
 
@@ -16,6 +23,7 @@ cat >"${cmfile}" <<"EOF"
   ((WORKDIR (IL:CONCAT (QUOTE {DSK}) (IL:UNIX-GETENV (QUOTE LOADUP_WORKDIR)) (QUOTE /))))
   (IL:MEDLEY-INIT-VARS)
   (IL:FILESLOAD MEDLEY-UTILS)
+  (SETQ IL:DIRECTORIES (CONS (IL:UNIX-GETENV (QUOTE LOADUP_SOURCEDIR)) IL:DIRECTORIES))
   (IL:MAKE-FULLER-DB
     (IL:CONCAT WORKDIR (IL:L-CASE (QUOTE fuller.dribble)))
     (IL:CONCAT WORKDIR (IL:L-CASE (QUOTE fuller.database)))
@@ -27,7 +35,7 @@ cat >"${cmfile}" <<"EOF"
 "
 EOF
 
-./run-medley ${scr} -loadup "${cmfile}" -full
+./run-medley ${scr} -loadup "${cmfile}" "${SYSOUT}"
 
 loadup_finish "fuller.database" "fuller*"
 
diff --git a/scripts/loadup-db.sh b/scripts/loadup-db.sh
index ebd7841e..d0f89f7a 100755
--- a/scripts/loadup-db.sh
+++ b/scripts/loadup-db.sh
@@ -7,42 +7,6 @@ fi
 
 . scripts/loadup-setup.sh
 
-loadup_start
-
-cat >"${cmfile}" <<"EOF"
-"
-
-(PROG
-  ((WORKDIR (IL:CONCAT (QUOTE {DSK}) (IL:UNIX-GETENV (QUOTE LOADUP_WORKDIR)) (QUOTE /)))
-   (LOADUP-SOURCE-DIR (IL:CONCAT (QUOTE {DSK}) (IL:UNIX-GETENV (QUOTE LOADUP_SOURCEDIR)) (QUOTE /)))
-  )
-  (IL:MEDLEY-INIT-VARS)
-  (IL:FILESLOAD MEDLEY-UTILS)
-  (SETQ IL:DIRECTORIES (CONS LOADUP-SOURCE-DIR IL:DIRECTORIES))
-  (IL:MAKE-FULLER-DB
-    (IL:CONCAT WORKDIR (IL:L-CASE (QUOTE fuller.dribble)))
-    (IL:CONCAT WORKDIR (IL:L-CASE (QUOTE fuller.database)))
-    (IL:CONCAT WORKDIR (IL:L-CASE (QUOTE fuller.sysout)))
-  )
-  (IL:LOGOUT T)
-)
-
-"
-EOF
-
-./run-medley ${scr} -loadup "${cmfile}" -full
-
-loadup_finish "fuller.database" "fuller*"
-
-#!/bin/sh
-
-if [ ! -x run-medley ] ; then
-    echo run from MEDLEYDIR
-    exit 1
-fi
-
-. scripts/loadup-setup.sh
-
 ./scripts/loadup-db-from-full.sh && ./scripts/copy-db.sh
 
 if [ $? -eq 0 ];
diff --git a/scripts/loadup-mid-from-init.sh b/scripts/loadup-mid-from-init.sh
index 7efc13e4..056411a3 100755
--- a/scripts/loadup-mid-from-init.sh
+++ b/scripts/loadup-mid-from-init.sh
@@ -9,6 +9,9 @@ fi
 
 loadup_start
 
+# wait to make sure timestamp ages enough since this run-medley is very short
+sleep 2
+
 cat >"${cmfile}" <<"EOF"
 "
 (MOVD? (QUOTE NILL) (QUOTE PROMPTPRINT))