Received: from MIT-JIMI by MIT-MC via Chaosnet; 1 JUN 85 18:49:39 EDT Date: Sat, 1 Jun 85 18:48 EDT From: David Vinayak Wallace Subject: new midas for twenex To: info-midas@MIT-MC.ARPA Message-ID: <850601184814.1.GUMBY@JIMI> Twenex Midas now kills itself (via PRARG) when done. I think this will only affect MIT users, but if any other site's exec recognises the same PRARG options, ftp the file oz:ss:TSRTNS.MID.232. david  Mail-From: KLH created at 4-Oct-83 13:49:28 Date: Tue 4 Oct 83 13:49:27-PDT From: Ken Harrenstien Subject: Re: Midas improvements. To: G.EGK@SU-SCORE, info-midas@MIT-MC cc: KLH@SRI-NIC In-Reply-To: Message from "Edjik " of Sun 2 Oct 83 17:15:13-PDT ReSent-date: Thu 13 Oct 83 00:21:40-PDT ReSent-from: Ken Harrenstien ReSent-to: info-midas@MIT-MC MIDAS does have this ability (FOO=BAR"), however it (and many other such features) exist only for the ITS STINK relocatable format, rather than the LINK format. I am looking at what would be required to provide functionality similar to STINK, but this is somewhat difficult as there are a bunch of things that STINK format allows, which LINK doesn't, so it requires really understanding what is going on in order to let only the LINK-allowable things happen. The person who did .DECREL originally took the easy way out by requiring things to be assembled more or less pseudo-absolutely. I haven't given up, but it's tough going as very little of the STINK format is documented. Fortunately a lot of it is extremely similar to LINK, and they are doubtless related far back in the dim past. -------  Date: Sun 2 Oct 83 00:25:46-PDT From: Edjik Subject: Midas improvements. To: info-midas@MIT-MC.ARPA One thing I've noticed MIDAS missing that MACRO has, is the ability to have external symbols in equals (=). This is quite handy and makes writing modules easier. Dunno how hard it would be to make MIDAS generate the appropriate LINK record but it probably is worth it. --E+ -------  Date: Wed 28 Sep 83 18:12:33-PDT From: Ken Harrenstien Subject: Some questions To: info-midas@MIT-MC cc: klh@SRI-NIC I have a few questions about some things I found in the MIDAS BUGS file. I seem to be in a mood to fix them, depending on the kind of answers I get... 1. .FAS or .FASL? Some people claim that on TOPS-20, output files generated with the .FASL pseudo-op should have the extension .FASL rather than .FAS. Is this true? Is this also true for TENEX? 2. TOPS-20 CCL? This purportedly no longer works for V3+. Where do I find out how it should work? Should compatibility with V2- be retained? 3. MIDAS .INSRT library? I would like to provide a system-independent way of allowing programs to .INSRT commonly used files. For this purpose I am thinking of adding a new pseudo called .INSLIB which would act exactly like .INSRT with the difference that the device/directory names would default to a place containing standard, public, or useful MIDAS .INSRT packages. This place can be defined on a per-system basis. If it was ever desired to change these defaults for a single assembly, this could be done by giving an .INSLIB specification with an explicit device/directory and no filename. Comments welcomed. 4. Others? If you have some ideas which have never been sent to BUG-MIDAS, now is a good time, not because I plan to try doing anything but because I am interested in seeing whether other people have found undocumented bugs or have hidden wish lists. I have a loooong list of MIDAS ideas as well as bugs, which will be available in MIDAS;IDEAS > (plus MIDAS BUGS), for those who care to avoid reiteration. The usual warning: very few such items ever get implemented. -------  Date: 27 September 1983 13:44 EDT From: Ken Harrenstien Subject: Mailing list on OZ... To: Ian @ MIT-OZ cc: INFO-MIDAS @ MIT-MC Yes, merge it (you can just point to it if you want to keep an OZ-specific group)... Latest version of MIDAS (not back on MC yet) fixes the various problems with building new MIDASes. I am currently scanning MIDAS BUGS (archive of bug-midas mail) to see if there are any interesting things that are easy to add before installing it.  Date: 27 Sep 1983 03:29 EDT (Tue) Message-ID: <[MIT-OZ].IAN.27-Sep-83 03:29:17> From: Ian Macky To: Info-MIDAS@MIT-OZ Subject: Mailing list on OZ... There's this list here... maybe it should be merged? It's mostly to do with 20-only stuff, usually OZ-only, like new packages and junk. MIDAS-USERS=Ian Jeh ZZZ Marty *SS:MIDAS.ARCHIVE Gumby egk GZ-OZ GS