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"body": "Near the end of SYSEN1; LIMERI 1, there is an .INSRT LIMS >. I'm guessing something like EAK; LIMS 51."
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"body": "Interesting. I've never used ASSLIS and certainly didn't when I created the LISP we're using in DB. I wonder if I should have. I just assembled the midas code manually. I'll give this a shot and see what it does. I'm not sure, here, if the distinction between Lisp and MacLisp is the same distinction that I was making earlier when I found evidence of a dumped out Lisp with additional \"features\" calling itself MacLisp. "
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"body": "Yes. I assume EAK; LIMS > also."
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"body": "Hmm.... when I try it, it wants LISP; LISP NNN where NNN is the same as the NNNQIO that you provide it in JCL. However, I'm not sure what that is supposed to be. PI distribution doesn't include a LISP; LISP NNN at all. I tried making a copy of L;*LISP 159 as LISP; LISP 999, and then tried :L;ASSLIS 999QIO and got this:\r\n\r\n> ITS==1?SFA==1\r\n^V MIDASN: L; TS ASSLIS - NO SUCH DEVICE\r\n:INPUSH\r\n"
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"body": "Why would you want to do this? Seems to me that while the issue might be old, the PR (the request to merge) is new. Why would you want the date on the PR to be that of the date the issue was created? Is it so that we don't use up integer values too quickly (or issues and PRs)? :-)"
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"body": "I do that t keep the discussion about the issue and the pull request in one place. So that information about the same thing is less spread out."
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"body": "Is that an approach you'd like the rest of us to use too?"
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"body": "I'm not overly concerned. I think people can do what they're comfortable with."
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"body": "When we add an EAK; LIMS >, the build script for TS QUOTE will have to be updated too."
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"body": "Now, we're using ECC; QUOTES >. Is that wrong? I thought TS QUOTE used ECC; QUOTES > and TS LIMERI used EAK; LIMS >."
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"body": "No, that's good and proper. But the build script relies on there being no EAK; LIMS > file so that MIDAS asks for another file name."
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"body": "Oh, I see, so if we put EAK; LIMS > in place, we will no longer be able to build TS QUOTE because it will load the limeric data. Maybe the right thing is to not put these data files in the \"right\" (expected) place so that we're always prompted for them?"
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"body": "That'll work.\r\n\r\nBut then, if EAK isn't the current MSNAME, maybe .INSRT LIMS > will not find it? I'm not sure how file name defaulting works in all cases."
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"body": "That's a good point. I thought the burned in default was literally EAK; LIMS >. If it is simply LIMS >, and dependent on the MSNAME, then we can force MIDAS to prompt by just changing the MSNAME for each different variant of LIMERI. "
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"body": "I don't know. The PI distribution has the link to FFORMA, which we have built from source. However, there is a whole FORMAT; directory with a ton of stuff in it. This MAY have been an old version of FORMAT. However, there are a bunch of FORMAT * files in LSPLIB (e.g. FORMAT BRACK, FORMAT EXTEND, FORMAT FLOAT, etc.) that needed to be there in order for some of the LSPLIB packages to be built -- I don't know why those are needed, since they appear to be related to the FORMAT; sources (that's where the source for those are). It almost seems that we have a mixture of two implementations of FORMAT -- and that we need that mixture. Perhaps some code needs to get upgraded? Or maybe FFORMA is compatible with and works with the old FORMAT * files from the FORMAT; directory. "
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"body": "Apparently, the MIT-AI 340 display does something undocumented with CONI bit 0. The manual only documents CONI bits 18-35, which is also the usual range for devices to provide. Phil has confirmed that CONI is capable of getting a full 36-bit word from the bus, so possibly this was an MIT hardware modification.\r\n\r\nThe lack of bit 0 in the CONI status word causes the code below to fail.\r\n\r\n```\r\n CONI DIS,A ;Get display status\r\n TRNN A,77 ;Any PI channels?\r\n JRST LPTBR2 ;No, check other device interrupts.\r\n CONSZ DIS,7400 ;Edge, light pen, or stop condition?\r\n JUMPL A,SRECYC ;Bit 0 set, handle special display interrupt channel\r\n"
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"body": "ITS 785 from 1973 also makes use of CONI bit 0, so this goes back to ITS prehistory."
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"body": "@philbudne, check this other snippet from ITSDEV:\r\n\r\n```\r\nSRCYRB: CONI DIS,A ;Get display status\r\n SKIPGE A ;Skip if bit 0 is zero.\r\n CONO DIS,100 ;WOULD ASSIGN IF IDLE\r\n MOVE A,[JSR DIGNOR]\r\n JRST SRCYB1\r\n```\r\n\r\nI haven't read all the 340 code so I'm not sure when this is called. But remember that the MIT-AI 340 was attached to both the PDP-6 and the PDP-10. There is a special device for assigning peripherals to the 6 or the 10. Assignment is done automatically when a processor issues a CONO, and then you have to explicitly deassign a device when it's not in use any more.\r\n\r\nNow see what this bit 0 does. If it's zero, SRECY will not be called. And SRCYRB will not do a CONO.\r\n\r\nMaybe bit 0 indicates that the display is assigned to some processor, or that it's assigned to the PDP-10?"
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"body": "Got it. It's explained in [HW memo 1](https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/its-archives/blob/master/ailab/ITS_Hardware_Memo_1.pdf).\r\n\r\nEvery peripheral on the shared I/O bus has a card called X100 which remembers if the peripheral is unassigned, assigned to the PDP-6, or assigned to the PDP-10.\r\n\r\n> There is also another feature built into the X100 card, which is a gate that is normally driven by the device CONI level and will read in a 1 or 0 on bit 0. This allows the processor to check for a successful assignment, because if the device is assigned to the other processor then the device CONI level will not be developed and a 1 will not be read in on bit 0."
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"body": "- https://github.com/PDP-10/its/blob/master/src/system/itsdev.974#L775\r\n- https://github.com/PDP-10/its/blob/master/src/system/itsdev.974#L2434\r\n"
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"body": "I had to supress a scream of joy waking up my kid when I saw PEEK displaying on the 340!"
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"body": "MLIFE does... something. I got it to display \"6214\" to the upper right. But I don't know how to operate it."
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"body": "PDSET works. \"-1S\" to activate. Maybe this will be my new wall clock."
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"body": "Exec DDT still prints lots of spaces."
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"body": "I'll add notes to this table:\r\n\r\n| Key | Label | Action\r\n| --- | --- | ---\r\n| Space | SPACE | Computes one new generation\r\n| E | INPUT2 | Toggle edit mode\r\n| R | READA | Read from input\r\n| W | WRITE | Write to output\r\n| I*file* | FILEI | Open file for input, timesharing only (standalone uses paper tape)\r\n| O*file* | FILEO | Open file for output, timesharing only (standalone uses paper tape)\r\n| C | CLOSE | Close file, timesharing only\r\n| K | KPRINT | Print the generation count\r\n| T | TPRINT | Print time\r\n| S | SPRINT | Print scaling factor\r\n| X | XPRINT | Print X coordinate of cursor\r\n| Y | YPRINT | Print Y coordinate of cursor\r\n| H | HERE | Print X and Y of cursor\r\n| D | IN | Delete all state\r\n| V | INVIEW |\r\n| ^S | PWAT | Standalone only\r\n| ^D | SDISF | Enable display\r\n| ^E | CDISF | Disable display\r\n| ^J, ^M | GOI |\r\n| ; | COMMNT | Comment; ignore input to end of line\r\n| : | SCOMNT | Scope comment; copy input to display\r\n| P | PROCED | Computes a large number of generations\r\n| *n*^F | SETFRM | Set frames\r\n| *n*S | SETSCL | Set scaling factor\r\n| *n*X | SETXF | Add n to cursor X coordinate\r\n| *n*Y | SETYF | Add n to cursor Y coordinate\r\n| *n*^X | SXF | Set cursor X coordinate\r\n| *n*^Y | SYF | Set cursor X coordinate\r\n| *n*^I | SIF | Set intensity, 0-7\r\n| *n*R | READ |\r\n| *n*P | |\r\n\r\nEdit mode:\r\n\r\n| Key | Action\r\n| --- | ---\r\n| . | Set dot\r\n| Delete | Remove dot\r\n| Space | Move right\r\n| _ | Move left\r\n| ^ | Move up\r\n| ^J | Move down\r\n| ^M | Move down and to X origin\r\n"
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"body": "It works now. There's no manual, so I'm working on that: #775."
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"body": "@philbudne, read this if you want to try MLIFE."
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"body": "It doesn't use the light pen."
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"body": "> PDSET works. \"-1S\" to activate. Maybe this will be my new wall clock.\n\nHasn't worked for me :-(\n"
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"body": "Strange. I didn't do anything to make it work. Or, not anything I'm aware of. \r\n\r\nThis is what I remember doing:\r\n\r\n- Made a new ITS with 340P==1. Assemble, then dump in DSKDMP.\r\n- Assembled a new PEEK. I said /T to MIDAS and then 340P==1. (By the way, please use IFNDEF for switches in programs.)\r\n- Edited exec DDT to say `dpysw==:1`.\r\n- Did nothing to PDSET, because the 340 code is unconditional.\r\n- Assembled MLIFE with /T to add definitions for APR, PI, and DIS."
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"body": "I can't figure this out. Either CGOL is horribly broken (but it did compile a bunch of Macsyma source) or there is something wrong with the syntax in LIBDOC; UTILS PRATT1. Perhaps the syntax of CGOL changed since UTILS was written and it no longer compiles."
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"body": "Turns out that LIBDOC; TTYVAR GSB1 is the documentation. The source is GSB; TTYVAR 17. It assembles fine and produces a usable FASL file."
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"body": "Why make a copy of NILCOM; VSAID >, is it like that in PI?"
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"body": "You mean as opposed to just putting a link LISP: VSAID LISP to NILCOM; VSAID >?. I guess I could/should have done that. I can update for that."
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"body": "Yes, I think we have made links in all other instances."
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"body": "Yeah, I thought I saw this as a non-link somewhere, but I can't find it now."
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"body": "Ok, fixed."
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"body": "And I checked PI and there is no LISP; VSAID LISP (or LISP; VSAID >) -- just the FASL. However, compiling the source (NILCOM; VSAID >) requires there to be a LISP; VSAID LISP in place. "
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"body": "Probably have to set the ttytyp %TT340 bit on the ITS console to make DECUUO (and SUDS) use the 340."
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"body": "We now have @philbudne's 340 emulator working in ITS timesharing, so hopefully everything is in place to run SUDS with graphics. #644 "
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"body": "Ah... Helps if I set the system time first!\n\nPleasant surprise that one simulated bit was all that was needed!\n\np\n"
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"body": "> Timesharing SPCWAR doesn't seem to work. Hangs ITS completely.\n\nWas just about to ask that question, but figured you'd tell me\nif there was a problem! So much for \"just one bit\"!\n\n"
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"body": "I patched FED to make it use the 340. This patching will not be necessary once ITS knows the console TTY is \"near\" the 340 display.\r\n\r\nI read in a font file, and FED displayed it. Then ITS crashed.\r\n\r\n```\r\nREADING: DSK:FONTS;20FG KST\r\nUUO WITH PI IN PROGRESS 10/7/1975 11:33:23\r\nPI LEVEL 6 BUGHALT. FIND A WIZARD OR CONSIDER TAKING A CRASH DUMP.\r\nTHE SYSTEM HAS CRASHED AND CANNOT BE REVIVED WITHOUT EXPERT ATTENTION.\r\nIF YOU CAN'T FIND HELP, RELOAD THE SYSTEM.6\r\nYOU ARE NOW IN DDT. 1 ! 6/5/1975 21:32:05\r\nBUGPC/ CAI UUOH0+2 $Q-2/ CONSZ PI,TTYST2+4 \r\n"
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"body": "> Was just about to ask that question, but figured you'd tell me if there was a problem!\r\n\r\nI'll report here and check off boxes in the top comment."
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"body": "I'm kind of giving up on SUDS, at least for now. Maybe @ams will take it from here."
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"body": "Checking what FED does. It reads a font file, does some processing, and calls .DSTART. Then ITS promply crashes. It reliably ends up in TTYST2+4 which is 0, hence the BUGHALT. TTYST2 is a table with data, so ITS has no business jumping there.\r\n\r\nBefore the crash the font briefly flashes by on the display, so it seems like the display list should be ok. At least most of it."
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"body": "FED: \r\nITS handles a 340 interupt and jumps to SRECYC. It goes through everything in the handler and returns through LPTBRK. Eventually we find ourselves at UEXIT, whish is trying to restore the PC to user mode value 310000,,001125. Proceeding from there, we get a crash. 1125 isn't the .DSTART in FED."
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"body": "I'd probably put it in sysen3, under the premise that this is not a very critical piece of software. That's where we've been putting some of the random sources for programs where we weren't sure what the correct sysenX directory was."
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"body": "Found a trace! Supposedly, a backup tape was made in 1974-12-05 on which there was a link from SYS1; TS 340D to STAN.K; MOD11 BIN.\r\n\r\nHowever, I can't find a MOD11 BIN anywhere."
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"body": "STAN.K is Stanley G. Kugell who also invented DIRED."
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"body": "It does look like OCM is Mac Hack. Supporting evidence:\r\n\r\n- The piece values are as described in AI Memo 174 (aside from KQ?).\r\n- `ADRAW` implements the accept/decline draw mechanism described in AI Memo 174.\r\n- [Krakauer writes](http://ljkrakauer.com/LJK/60s/chess1.htm) \"Mac Hack VI had an \"Undo\" command, actually called \"Unmove\", which was invoked by typing the single character Ctrl-u\". OCM's ^U calls `UNMOVE`.\r\n- The `SAVE`/`ALG`/`PG` commands shown in [Krakauer's 1968 transcript](http://ljkrakauer.com/LJK/60s/game1list.htm) work in the same way in OCM.\r\n- (Edit:) SAILDART's GREEN.DMP, which is explicitly described as Mac Hack, appears to be the same program.\r\n\r\nThere's a list of other long-form commands it understands at SYMPS; most need an argument, e.g. `PPV 1`.\r\n\r\nDo we have the opening book data for it? At present it plays... poorly if you say `BOOK 1`. It looks like the file should be called `DSK:BOOK MOVES`."
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"body": "Thanks for doing this research.\r\n\r\nWe don't have any file called BOOK MOVES, but I'll look for it."
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"body": "Here's the latest info on FED: \r\nhttps://github.com/rcornwell/sims/issues/60"
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"body": "I have added you to the PDP-10 group at GitLab. But the long-term solution would be to make the artifacts accessible by all."
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"body": "Rich has merged the 340 CONI fix, so I'm preparing a pull request to update the KA10 simulator and ITS for using the display."
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"body": "smj from the @livingcomputermuseum will visit Greenblatt next month. He told me he probably still has some earlier MACHACK VI code"
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"body": "- X CURSOR - enable light pen tracker.\r\n- X DPY - enable displaying.\r\n- X TITLE - set title lines."
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"body": "We hit the time limit again! We've got to split up this build! (ka10 build went over 50 minutes)"
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"body": "I restarted the job, and now it went through."
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"body": "But that’s cheating! :-)"
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"body": "SUDS manual online: \r\nhttps://www.saildart.org/NSUDS.RPH[UP,DOC]"
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"body": "CHESS2 is Alan Baisley's Tech II. See:\r\n\r\n- https://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/Alan+Baisley\r\n- https://www.saildart.org/TECH2.MRC[UP,DOC]1 (nearly the same as CHESS2's built-in help)\r\n- https://www.saildart.org/TECH2.SGK[UP,DOC] - \"The author logs on to MIT-AI as AGB if you wish to send him mail.\"\r\n\r\nhttps://www.saildart.org/CHESS.AKC[UP,DOC] says that DCHESS.DMP on SAILDART is Greenblatt's chess program; the earliest version they have is from 1972.\r\n\r\nFrom disassembly, it looks like SAILDART's DCHESS is actually a display frontend and GREEN.DMP (8 versions, dated from 1972 to 1979) is the chess program itself; it contains the same messages as OCM on ITS. The book file there was called NBOOK.BK, but there's also a log showing it was reaped in 1987..."
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"body": "Thanks, good finds!\r\n\r\nWe're especially on the look out for the Krakauer 340 display chess board. Maybe it could be in a locked Saildart directory, or in Grenblatt's garage. I asked Krakauer; he doesn't have it."
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"body": "By the way @atsampson, do you have access to alt.sys.pdp10? I wrote about these two programs not too long ago, and I think this new information could be added to the \"Looking for PDP-6 software\" thread."
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"body": "At MIT, there were:\r\n\r\n- 11LOGO - PDP-11\r\n- APLOGO - Apple II\r\n- ATLOGO - Atari\r\n- TILOGO - Texas Instruments\r\n- LLOGO - Lisp\r\n- PLOGO - Pascal\r\n- LOGO - ?\r\n- NLOGO - Maybe new PDP-11 LOGO. Mentions SITS, the timesharing system."
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"body": "Finally able to load a drawing. Some observations:\r\n\r\n- ^B means Control, and ^C means Meta.\r\n- Use ^C I, not ^B I.\r\n- Start DECUUO with the /META switch for SAIL bucky bits to work."
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"body": "Start SUDS like this: `:dec draw;d /meta`\r\n\r\nThe switch is important to make SAIL bucky bits work.\r\n\r\nType Control-C I to load a drawing."
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"body": "Loading a drawing in SUDS:\r\n\r\n *:dec draw;d /meta\r\n *^C I\r\n\r\nI'll check how to have it displayed later."
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"body": "On 4/6/18 6:26 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:\n>\n> Start SUDS like this: |:dec draw;d /meta|\n>\n> The switch is important to make SAIL bucky bits work.\n>\n> —\n> You are receiving this because you were mentioned.\n> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub \n> <https://github.com/PDP-10/its/issues/614#issuecomment-379213804>, or \n> mute the thread \n> <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AASug64cDDhkTFHZksnYuiFIe5HZDsIrks5tl0LrgaJpZM4RkHd1>.\n>\nI was fooling around this morning and ran into this:\n\nhttps://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/41180/ai_wp_235.pdf?sequence=4\n\nwhich I'd never seen before.  It has a lot of interesting (and useful) \ncontext...\n\n-brad\n\n\n"
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"body": "Thank you Brad. We have seen it, but it always pays off to go back and reread it! It mentions SUDS very briefly:\r\n\r\n>DRAW is a program for assisting engineers with circuit design and layout at the pc-board level. DRAW runs on MIT-AI10 with a Knight TV.\r\n"
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"body": "In ITS, the first DECtape unit is 1.\r\n\r\nTo use a drive, use e.g. `:assign 1`.\r\n\r\nTo write a blank directory, `:uinit 1`.\r\n\r\nBefore dismounting a tape, `:flap 1`."
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"body": "I don't have it handy, but I can get it and will post something here when I do. I've assigned this ticket to myself. "
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"body": "There was an EJS; MACTRK INFO file. I could retrieve that and see what it said. "
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"body": "Yes, GAME was an original game frontend we developed for MC (probably for all ITS systems). It was replaced by NGAME (enhanced version). The source was in EJS; NGAME 271, and i have that source. I believe I or Lars created a ticket to get TS NGAME installed. NGAME imposed all sorts of restrictions and allowed access to a bunch of games. This is the list, I believe:\r\n\r\n> A -- Adventure II\t \r\n M -- Adventure I.V\r\nB -- Baisley's Chess Program\t \r\nN -- Nimlin\r\nC -- Greenblatt's Chess Program\t \r\nO -- Othello\r\nD -- Doctor\t\t\t \r\nP -- KMP's Psychiatrist\r\nE -- Chase (W. Kornfeld's)\t \r\nQ -- Qubic\r\nF -- Backgammon\t\t\t \r\nS -- Star Trek\r\nG -- Go\t\t\t\t \r\nT -- Stone (for displays only)\r\nJ -- Jotto\t\t\t \r\nU -- Sprouts\r\nK -- Animal II\t\t\t \r\nW -- Wumpus\r\nL -- Limerick\t\t\t \r\nX -- Wumpus Advisor\r\n. -- Think\t\t\t \r\nY -- Yahtzee\r\n7 -- Guess!\t\t\t \r\nZ -- Zork!\r\n^A -- Lists games available\r\n^C -- Lists program commands\r\n"
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"body": "EJS; TREK 1 \r\nEJS; TREK 2 \r\nEJS; TREK UNFORT \r\n-PICS-; TREK PIC (for the name dragon!)"
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"body": "What is UNFORT? Result from Fortran to Lisp converter?"
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"body": "This? http://www.nhplace.com/kent/Papers/Fortran-to-Lisp.html"
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"body": "Cool - thanks very much! That list seems to correspond to the dot-prefixed names in JOBS.\r\n\r\nNGAME was mentioned in the discussion about ADVENT in #167, but I don't think there's another ticket for it, so I'll add it to the title here. It sounds like it'd be nice to have in the distribution now that we've got some of these games available."
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"body": "I don't see an NGAME issue, actually.\r\n\r\nI want option Z! :-)"
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"body": "That just ran the dummy zork app that Told you (in a humorous way) that it was the wrong machine. Not the ! after Zork."
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"body": "Ok. You can assign to me.\n\n-- Eric\n\n\n> On Apr 6, 2018, at 10:52, Adam Sampson <notifications@github.com> wrote:\n> \n> Cool - thanks very much! That list seems to correspond to the dot-prefixed names in JOBS.\n> \n> NGAME was mentioned in the discussion about ADVENT in #167, but I don't think there's another ticket for it, so I'll add it to the title here. It sounds like it'd be nice to have in the distribution now that we've got some of these games available.\n> \n> —\n> You are receiving this because you were mentioned.\n> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread.\n> \n"
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"body": "To run SUDS, use\r\n\r\n :dec draw;d /iii/meta\r\n\r\n`/iii` means emulate the SAIL Triple-I display system. `/meta` means emulate the SAIL bucky bits."
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"body": "When running SUDS as per above, you'll get a DDT message like:\r\n\r\n DPY; LODHGH+1>>.CALL LODOPN (OPEN)\r\n\r\nThis means DECUUO was stopped because there's an unhandled DPY = %PIDIS interrupt."
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"body": "SRCY1C+12 jumps to SRCY2B which jumps to DISLOS. DISLOS is what sets the %PIDIS interrupt bit in the job."
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"body": "@philbudne, I `set dpy debug` and got this. Can you see what's going on, or why there is an interrupt ITS doesn't like?\r\n\r\n```\r\nDBG(628543930)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=102374 400000000200\r\nDBG(628543981)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 133 CONO 000000 PC=102252 000200\r\nDBG(628546879)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 133 CONO 005146 PC=002527 000246\r\nDBG(628549749)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 131 DATO 000000003000 PC=106311\r\nDBG(628549768)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=101437 400000000646\r\nDBG(628549774)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=101442 400000000646\r\nDBG(628549801)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=101533 400000000646\r\nDBG(628549808)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=101537 400000000646\r\nDBG(628549858)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 133 CONO 000146 PC=102024 000246\r\nDBG(628552666)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 131 DATO 000000034137 PC=106226\r\nDBG(628552674)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 131 DATO 221700060000 PC=106226\r\nDBG(628552682)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 131 DATO 403737403737 PC=106226\r\nDBG(628552701)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=101437 400000000646\r\nDBG(628552707)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=101442 400000000646\r\nDBG(628552734)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=101533 400000000646\r\nDBG(628552741)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=101537 400000000646\r\nDBG(628552793)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 133 CONO 000100 PC=102040 000200\r\nDBG(628589251)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 133 CONO 000000 PC=102252 000200\r\nDBG(628592044)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=102374 400000000200\r\nDBG(628592843)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 133 CONO 000000 PC=102252 000200\r\nDBG(628593402)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 133 CONO 000000 PC=102210 000200\r\nDBG(628593452)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 133 CONO 005146 PC=002527 000246\r\nDBG(628596095)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 131 DATO 000000003000 PC=013733\r\nDBG(628596114)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=101437 400000000646\r\nDBG(628596120)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=101442 400000000646\r\nDBG(628596147)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=101533 400000000646\r\nDBG(628596154)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 132 CONI PC=101537 400000000646\r\nDBG(628596465)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 133 CONO 000146 PC=102157 000246\r\nDBG(628596544)> DPY DEBTAB_ISNULL: DPY 133 CONO 000100 PC=102040 000200\r\nDPY; 750576>>POPJ 7,\r\n"
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"body": "No thoughts off hand.... My offhand guess from glancing at the code is that:\r\n SUBI E,N340PB\r\n JUMPG E,SRCY2B ;CANT MAKE IT IN ONE WHACK\r\nmeans the supplied display list won't fit in the (ten) page window of exec memory?!\r\n\r\nI'd be curious to know the value of register E at SRCY2B, and whether increasing N340PB by that much gets you any further..."
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