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"body": "> Why remove the assignment to A rather than comment it out?\r\n\r\nGood catch - I'd first rewritten it to compute a better limit for A, which didn't work, and forgot to put the original line back. I'll fix that."
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"body": "Maybe MUDSAV; TS MDL56, and then link SYS3; TS MDL and SYS3; TS MUDDLE to that?"
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"body": "Sounds sensible - that'd also allow us to have multiple versions installed, if we ever needed (say) a MDL54 with different behaviour for some application.\r\n\r\nFixed MDL version in the MIDAS commit message too."
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"body": "- Make CFS directory invisible?!? ;-)\r\n- build.cmd loads a few BIN files which we recognize from Zork. Are those compiled?\r\n- It also loads a ZORK.XGBIN. What's that? In the end, it's deleted."
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"body": "- SYS1; TS ZORK has timestamps from 1979-08-07 to 1979-11-24.\r\n- SYS2; TS ZORK has timestamps from 1979-11-24 to 1981-11-27.\r\n- SYS3; TS ZORK has timestamps from 1979-11-24 to 1987-11-13.\r\n- KMP; AR9: ZORK 19 has timestamp 1979-11-24. \"The only MIT machine supporting Zork is MIT-DMS\"\r\n- KMP; AR9: ZORK 20 has timestamp 1981-11-27. \"No MIT machine supports Zork any longer.\"\r\n- KMP; AR9: ZORK 21 has timestamp 1987-11-13. \"No MIT supports DM any longer.\""
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"body": "@eswenson1, was there ever a playable Zork on MIT-MC? Given your comment about the Z option in NGAME, I guess not. And all files above are KMP's dummies.\r\n\r\nI have a tiny shread of hope that the earliest one from August 1979 could be the real thing.\r\n\r\nI do see plenty of Zork save files! Ranging from 1977-12-10 to 1981-06-21."
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"body": "MIDAS 323 can multiply a global symbol with a constant. See e.g. MUDSYS; SAVE 176, `; POINT TO REAL CHANNELS SLOTS`.\r\n\r\nMIDAS 458 won't do that. It'll complain saying \"Externals multiplied\".\r\n\r\nChecking the diff, it seems the logic at label MULTP1 has been arranged somewhat. The 323 version seems to work, but supposedly the change was made for a reason. Some testcases and careful single-stepping should reveal the intent."
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"body": "I wonder if this might be the same [problem that we saw with MIDAS 76/77](https://github.com/PDP-10/its/issues/681#issuecomment-382141785), where a CBLK call obviously wasn't doing what the program expected. Edit: [It wasn't.](https://github.com/PDP-10/its/issues/681#issuecomment-384351673)"
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"body": "I looked at DDTORD, by I didn't find any thing to explain that difference between ^K and :. ^K always loads a file, whilst : can run a built-in DDT command. But that should not be the case here. Unless DM patched their DDT?\r\n\r\nSo I went to the source code. ACTRLK has the comment \"HERE WE HANDLE FOO^H, FOO^K, :FOO ...<CR>, :NEW FOO ...<CR>, :RETRY FOO ... <CR>\" But as far as I can see :FOO<CR> goes to ACTRLK too so I think \" ...\" can be empty."
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