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"body": "As I wrote in the commit, either run this in a VT52 capable terminal emulator such as xterm (just send it the magic escape sequence), or in CRTSTY with the SIMULATE VT52 option. Or hey @sethm, use a VT52!"
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"body": "[AI memo 169](http://bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/ai/aim/AIM-169.pdf) also mentions Data Discs (page four). The ITS version at this time (November 1968) was still 1.4."
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"body": "[AI memo 170](http://bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/ai/aim/AIM-170.pdf) from January 1969 mentions a DSK: device (and ITS 454)."
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"body": "[AI memo 170](http://bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/ai/aim/AIM-170.pdf) by Jack Holloway describes a wirelist program.\r\n\r\nThe date of the memo is January 1969. The transcript has the date 1929-01-09 (!) and ITS 454, I believe."
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"body": "Are you sure those are control-Fs there? Or are they just ^F (circumflex followed by F)? If that is the case, then just use emacs to insert the characters ^ and F (followed by font number).\r\n\r\nIf you really need to add a Control-F to a file, then you need to tell emacs to \"quote\" the next character. You do that by using the Control-Q prefix. So typing Control-Q Control-F would insert a Control-F in the file. Again, I'm not sure this is what is required -- but I don't know TJ6. \r\n\r\nThe control-q prefix will also work for inserting a literal <esc> character in the buffer. "
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"body": "By the way, I successfully followed the instructions in printing.md to create that DEMO 1 file, run TJ6 on it, producing an XGP file and then on the host converting to PBM files. So the characters that are supposed to switch fonts are ^F1 (to select font 1). That is circumflex (^) followed by F followed by 1. It is not a control-f."
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"body": "Looks like this should be resolved. @TheFausap, feel free to ask more questions if your problem isn't solved."
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"body": "AIM-453, page 8, line goes beoynd right margin. Page 10 likewise, plus a column of characters to the upper right. Page 11, page 10 overflows?\r\n"
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"body": "I've added more of these to the list above."
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"body": "I added SYS.18.01 \"A Machine-Independent MDL\" which is a Scribe document."
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"body": "SAIL; FAIL PUB, but now straying outside MIT."
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"body": "TJ6's problem is due to using the .RDATE system call which only providess YYMMDD in sixbit. It's hardcoded to output 19 and then YY."
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"body": "Arguably, SCNV doesn't have a bug; it's just not updated. It reads the file creation date with RFDATE, which is supposed to return the disk format date with year modulo 100. ITS has now changed to return year - 1900.\r\n\r\nWe better check all uses of RFDATE (and SFDATE)."
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"body": "I tried to test the IMX device with I mode in PEEK, but it didn't work. Looks like ITS needs IMX interrupts, which I haven't implemented."
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"body": "> We better check all uses of RFDATE (and SFDATE).\r\n\r\nWe'll need to look at all the calls to FILBLK, RFDATE, RQDATE, SFDATE, SRDATE for #853 anyway..."
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"body": "SYSDOC; .CALLS > will need updating for this; at the same time, we can fix the various places where it says that the year field is \"mod 100\" when it's actually \"minus 1900\"."
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"body": "@36bit,\r\n\r\nYes, that's what the guideline says. But it's just a guide and we don't always follow it to the letter.\r\n\r\nThere's some amount of red tape involved in creating pull requests, so sometimes it makes sense to add a closely related fix."
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"body": "@eswenson1 I tried the example but in my case I got ^F, but I used the conversion to pdf, so maybe this could be the problem.\r\nI want to try with pbm."
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"body": "I'm looking at the TJ6MEM document, and it does use Control-F for font selection. So in EMACS, type Control-Q and then Control-F to insert a single ^F control character in the buffer.\r\n\r\n@eswenson1, can you double check your file? Is it really two characters, ^ and F?"
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"body": "@DavidGriffith \r\n\r\n> I can make a simulation of the 9th floor, but I'll need someone who knows the place better to add decorations.\r\n\r\nLet me know if you want to do this. We have floor plans for the entire building, room numbers, people's office number, which terminals were placed in which rooms, were the computers were located, etc. And the possibility to interview people for more details if necessary."
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"body": "This begs the question, use 7, 8, or 9 bits of year from RQDATE? 7 is the currently documented number, 8 is likely quite safe, 9 would be nice to avoid a year 2156 problem. Right, grandchildren?"
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"body": "@larsbrinkhoff Using CTRL-Q + CTRL-F, according the TJ6 manual it should display an \"epsilon\", and using supdup terminal it displays correctly an \"epsilon\"."
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"body": "Apologies for the confusion. I entered the font changes as single characters (with ^Q^F in Emacs). I wouldn't be surprised if TJ6 does have another way of doing the same thing, though... remember the original version of the manual has a section on how to use TJ6 if your terminal doesn't support lowercase letters!\r\n\r\nMaybe we need a notation for \"this is a single character\" in our documentation. Some of the early ITS docs draw circles around altmodes and control characters..."
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"body": "Can Unicode help here or does it just have crap like ☃? 😡"
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"body": "I'd go with 7 bits for now; we can update it when we decide how to change the date format."
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"body": "Funky brackets? 【^F】"
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"body": "Hello, I can confirm using CTRL-Q and CTRL-F, the bold font is displayed correctly in PDF.\r\nHere my EMACS screen (using SUPDUP terminal, under Ubuntu):\r\n![screenshot from 2018-06-04 12-58-44](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1846443/40914115-399c3060-67f7-11e8-8230-971b265563b3.png)\r\nI have to check with my loongson laptop (ITS + KLH10, under debian 8, runs very smoothly under MIPS Yeelong... RMS should be happy :) ) using a standard terminal."
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"body": "I tried on yeloong, after a change in /etc/default/console-setup \r\n```\r\nCHARMAP=\"UTF-8\"\r\nCODESET=\"guess\"\r\nFONTFACE=\"Terminus\"\r\nFONTSIZE=\"8x16\"\r\n```\r\nI am able to display the epsilon char also in the console"
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"body": "GitLab says the job has passed, but the status hasn't reached GitHub. Maybe Microsoft snarfed it."
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"body": "Text from AI memo 179 has been copied to INFO; MIDAS 25."
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"body": "Oh no! I thought we’d have at least 6 months before Microsoft ruined github!"
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"body": "@larsbrinkhoff I was totally wrong, above. I had originally created two test tj6 files -- one with circumflex-f-1 and one with control-f-1, successfully created both XGP files, converted them to scan files with VERSA, and totally flubbed my FTP'ing to a linux host. I overwrote one with the other. In any case, I redid the experiment, and indeed, the font control is done with control-F. circumflex-f just results in ^F1Foo^F0 being displayed in the resulting image. Sorry for the misinformation -- I guess my information regarding the need to use control-Q in emacs, however, was good, so only half disinformation! "
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"body": "Thanks for checking, Eric."
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"body": "I've located the source of CTENSR (TENSOR; CTENSR FUNCS). I've managed to translate it from Macsyma to Lisp and to compile the result. It required another macsyma source file (SHAREM; PACKG >), which had to also be translated. Once both were translated and the CTENSR FASL file moved to SHARE; CTENSR FASL, I was able to run tdebug(); with apparent success."
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"body": "Since I haven't yet been able to compile the macsyma support for translate_file, I'm going to commit the FASL files required to support this (TRANSS and TRHOOK). Then, I'll update the build to build PACKG and CTENSR. Ticket #922 is open for figuring out how to compile TRANSS and TRHOOK."
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"body": "I think this is the GT40 software used for the Lisp display slave (#900), and SUDS."
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"body": "I made a converter program to take a PALX binary such as this, and write a PDP-11 paper tape image which can be loaded into SIMH. It's in the pdp10-its-disassembler repository."
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"body": "FP11 instructions found in Dazzle Dart: \r\nLDF, SUBF, ADDF, STF, LDCIF, TSTF, CMPF, MULF, NEGF, CLRF, ABSF, STCFI, DIVF."
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"body": "Adding: \r\nAI memos 191, 240, 260, 261, 285, 292, 295, 300, 301. \r\nWorking papers 16, 25-30, 32, 58, 59, 63, 67, 72, 78, 87. \r\nTechnical report 350?"
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"body": "Some working papers are called \"Vision Flash\" and reside in VIS; VF* *."
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"body": "[Working paper/Vision flash 44](https://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/41078/AI_WP_044.pdf), June 1972:\r\n\r\n- LISP 229"
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"body": "- SYSEN2; DIRED 187 has a comment it was changed in 8/2/76 for ITS 1021.\r\n- SYSNET; TELSER 149 mentions ITS 1004, but there's no date.\r\n- .INFO.; LISP NEWS has a section from May 16, 1977 that mentions ITS 1051."
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"body": "I tried the section V, but I got these errors:\r\n\r\n```\r\n*:tj6 aim164 memo\r\nPAPERW unknown command DSK:FAUSAP;AIM164 MEMO(1,4)(1,3)\r\nLINE unknown command DSK:FAUSAP;AIM164 MEMO(1,6)(1,4)\r\nPAPER unknown command DSK:FAUSAP;AIM164 MEMO(1,8)(1,5)\r\nNOJUST unknown command DSK:FAUSAP;AIM164 MEMO(1,47)(2,21)\r\n3 pages\r\n:KILL \r\n```\r\n"
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"body": "[AI memo 164](http://bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/ai/aim/AIM-164.pdf) from September 1968 mentions DDn."
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"body": "That looks good, I think."
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"body": "I appear to have no end of problems with sub modules. I had no intention of modifying (nor do I remember touching) that sub module."
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"body": "In general, submodules doesn't work like regular files or directories in git. But in this case, `git checkout origin/master -- tools/dasm` works fine even though the target directory is a submodule."
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"body": "Picture of a Knight TV console, from news:yzl1wj4vdhl.fsf@news.dtpq.com - Christopher Stacy thinks he took the photo.\r\n\r\nhttps://hack.org/mc/tmp/knight-console.jpg"
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"body": "These files seem relevant:\r\n\r\nPRATT; DOC 490 \r\nPRATT; [DOC] 709 \r\nPRATT; .DOC. (INIT) \r\nPRATT; DOCMAN 8 \r\nPRATT; DOC ORDER \r\nPRATT; DOC RECENT \r\nPRATT; DOC TTY \r\n"
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"body": "Hooray! It's so beautiful. Thanks @cstacy and @mchackorg."
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"body": "Finally a picture of the Knight TV!\r\n\r\n![knight-console](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/775050/41052021-00d2347e-69b8-11e8-983f-c60914782612.jpg)\r\n"
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"body": "Are there any more recent releases than the tape image? From alt.sys.pdp10 in October 2011:\r\n\r\n> OK, putting on my hat as the official maintainer of MIT TECO and EMACS (for TOPS-20 and ITS). [...] (FWIW, I happen to have a GNU Emacs running on the museum's Toad-1 right now, \r\n alongside an EMACS.)"
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"body": "Ludd's LI, from [here](https://web.archive.org/web/20001001082549/http://www.ludd.luth.se:80/gallery/ludd1-mII/) via a 2001 post from @larsbrinkhoff (news:853d2qkfk3.fsf@junk.nocrew.org).\r\n\r\n![image03](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/436317/41054715-120cef00-69b7-11e8-8e8b-132e1f8e652e.jpg)\r\n"
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"body": "I have asked, and no, there aren't."
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"body": "Christopher Stacy in news:x8ln1bgk8do.fsf@world.std.com says:\r\n\r\n> ITS implementation of TCP-IP was begun on November 10, 1982, nearly single-handedly by Ken Harrenstien, and MIT-MC was doing TCP on December 19th. The other machines began running the TCP version of ITS on flag day: **MIT-AI started running ITS 1312 on December 31 at 21:03-EST** and it all worked. That included SMTP, FTP, TELNET, MLDEV, etc., etc."
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"body": "I have never seen anything else to suggest there were. Maybe ask Mr Stacy or the mailing list?\r\n\r\nBy the way, is there a way to retrieve messages from message IDs from, say, Google Groups. I tried another service at random, but it couldn't find all messages I wanted."
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"body": "As far as I understand, ITS support was under way but not finished. So an earlier version definitely wouldn't have it."
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"body": "That's rather precise! I'm guessing there was some kind of log saved."
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"body": "Do we have the tape of the sources for TECO/EMACS for Emacs 170?"
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"body": "I had 1312 pegged at 1983 due to a message to ITS-BUGS from January 3, 1983. I'll fix that and see what other 1983 verison is on record as the lowest. (Off-record, presumably 1313.)"
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"body": "Note that was a simulator. If I have the timeline right, that design was scrapped in favour of another one. There's a detailed manual, so I suppose we could figure out if the latest version has those peripherals.\r\n\r\nI have talked to David. He has had bad experiences sharing his work with others, and now he doesn't want to make it publicly available. It could be that it's just the hardware design and not the software, but I didn't press the matter."
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"body": "Yes, here: https://github.com/PDP-10/emacs\r\n\r\nIt's a TOPS-20 tape, but individual files are available on a branch."
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"body": "Anything there that we don't have or should merge into the ITS version?"
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"body": "A couple of mentions of early TECO on the 340.\r\n\r\nMark Crispin in news:Pine.OSX.4.64.0512181715300.9510@pangtzu.panda.com wrote:\r\n\r\n> The ultimate source of TOPS-10 TECO was the reimplementation of Dan Murphy's PDP-1 TECO on the PDP-6 at the MIT AI Lab; that is, a very early version of ITS TECO. That program most definitely had display support, and was always used on the 340(?) display. [...] It was a mystery to the original authors of TECO that anyone would ever consider TECO usable without a display.\r\n\r\nChristopher Stacy in news:uk7fqcl67.fsf@dtpq.com wrote:\r\n\r\n> The people who ported TECO to the PDP-6 were the same (other) people who hacked on the PDP-1 version of TECO. The port was done over a weekend by Greenblatt, Nelson, and Holloway, but I don't think Murphy was there. Those are the same people who did things like add support for ASCII to TECO on the PDP-1, and who later, along with a bunch of others, added most of the features to TECO on the PDP-6. I think they are also the same hackers who brought you \"340 Display Mode\", evolving the program beyond its paper-tape origins into a visual editor. They are also the same people who were writing ITS.\r\n\r\n"
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"body": "I haven't checked yet. I'm quite happy with EMACS 162, so I haven't\nfelt an urgent need to upgrade.\n"
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"body": "It's a bit hard to see what this program is actually doing on a fast terminal...\r\n\r\nMark Crispin in news:Pine.OSX.4.64.0601081045290.9510@pangtzu.panda.com:\r\n\r\n> > What was the difference between tty <CTRL/F> and tty <CTRL/K>?\r\n>\r\n> Both commands showed a \"systat\" or \"who\" type display of who else was on \r\n> the system, what they were running, etc.\r\n> \r\n> tty <CTRL/F> showed the directory of the TTY: device, that is \r\n> the contents of TTY:.FILE. (DIR)\r\n> \r\n> tty <CTRL/K> ran the TTY program, which showed the same directory, only it \r\n> output each character in a random order (albeit at the correct screen \r\n> position). It was quite the neat thing to watch.\r\n"
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"body": "Usually pasting the message ID (without news: or <>) into the Google Groups search box will find it, but it looks like they don't have that message. I've put a copy [here](https://stuff.offog.org/its/news/2002-cstacy)."
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"body": "The web page says the final FPGA version has ATA, RS232, a clock and an SPI Ethernet interface. As David doesn't want to make it available then I'll close this."
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"body": "Perhaps worth noting regarding RP07 support listed above:\r\n\r\nMark Crispin and Alan Bawden in news:w2dskp98jhj.fsf_-_@shaggy.csail.mit.edu wrote:\r\n\r\n> > RP07s were too fast for the KS10 and the front end 11/40 on KL10s. ...\r\n>\r\n> They were?? Oh man that hurts. One of the last things I tried to do to keep ITS running was to get this handy RP07 somebody left us hooked up to our KS10s (because we were running out of working RP06s). The changes I made are in the ITS source code, but they were never tested.\r\n\r\n(\"Too fast\" might not be a problem in emulation, of course... but has it been tested since?)"
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Additional changes from Kirk Lougheed and Greg Satz have\r\n; at Stanford, and Frank Wancho at SIMTEL20, been added as necessary, and some\r\n; of the commentary for same added to this version.\r\n;\r\n; The Stanford EMACS prior to 165 was 162, based on TECO 1180 (as far as I can\r\n; tell).\r\n;\r\n; From TECO.MID.118037:\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118037, 7-Jan-85 16:01:56, Edit by SATZ\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118035, 18-Dec-84 14:35:29, Edit by SATZ\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118032, 28-Nov-84 18:24:08, Edit by SATZ\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118031, 28-Nov-84 18:07:25, Edit by SATZ\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118030, 25-May-84 17:29:17, Edit by LOUGHEED\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118029, 23-May-84 00:11:46, Edit by LOUGHEED\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118028, 21-May-84 03:19:50, Edit by LOUGHEED\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118027, 21-May-84 02:37:33, Edit by LOUGHEED\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118025, 29-Sep-83 23:43:05, Edit by LOUGHEED\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118024, 29-Sep-83 18:31:28, Edit by LOUGHEED\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118023, 29-Sep-83 18:00:29, Edit by LOUGHEED\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118020, 28-Sep-83 13:41:27, Edit by LOUGHEED\r\n;<EMACS162>TECO.MID.118019, 27-Sep-83 23:10:54, Edit by LOUGHEED\r\n; How about we start an edit history for changes at Stanford?\r\n; - added Freedom-100/200 support\r\n; - merged in changes from GSB for Hazeltine Esprit support\r\n; - made H19 character insert pad differently so that the H29 will work\r\n; - use GTHST to get host name instead of hardwired of CVHST\r\n; - fix assembly error in INIDLM from previous edits\r\n; - add ANSI, AVT, AVTX support\r\n; - Make sure the terminal gets reset after continuing from the HALTF%\r\n; (Same change made to MIT sources between 1208 and 1209)\r\n;\r\n; The \"standard Stanford EMACS\" was version 165 for the last decade. This was\r\n; Bill Westfield's version, which used TEXTI% for input. It diverged from the\r\n; other Stanford stream after edit 118030; only comments after that are\r\n; retained here.\r\n;\r\n; From XTECO.MID.121705 28-Mar-85 09:56:37 (equivalent to TECO.MID.16502):\r\n;\r\n;[SU-SCORE.ARPA]PS:<EMACS165>XTECO.MID.5, 4-Mar-85 01:17:58, Edit by BILLW\r\n; call XTXTI1 on ctrl-C to remove waiting line of text from tty input buf.\r\n;[SU-SCORE.ARPA]PS:<EMACS165>XTECO.MID.2, 19-Feb-85 15:11:55, Edit by BILLW\r\n; change name from STECO to XTECO. 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"body": "Would it make sense if I committed the binary for PUB, PUB2, and SCRIBE while trying to get the right pieces to build these from source?"
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"body": "I believe Rich Alderson tested using an RP07 with KLH10."
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"body": "Everything above looks ok. I'll update the master branch with `git merge --ff-only origin/master`, but rebasing ought to work too.\r\n\r\nI don't know exactly how or when submodules are included in a commit. I think you'll have to `git add` them, or maybe if you touch the `.gitmodules` file. I'll sometimes do an overreaching `git add` myself and get some files or directories included which I didn't intend. I'll usually do a `git status -s` before making a commit to see that nothing unintended has snuck in."
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"body": "I got an answer from MIT that higher resolution videos are possible, but for a price. Probably steep."
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"body": "By the looks of it, there's not a lot of electronics in the console. I suppose it's all in or around the TV-11, and there are just cables going from the video switch to the displays."
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"body": "As per #655, we should have a TECO with 340 support. I have examined it, but not done any tests."
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"body": "I logged the output. Indeed there's a lot of cursor motion going on. But why?!?"
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"body": "Sure, binaries are ok when there's a program we want to use and it's hard or impossible to build from source. For example, I think it's ok to have F40 in only binary form. We had a FAIL binary for a while until I found the source on Saildart."
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"body": "Most of the time, I have preferred to make changes to use four-digit years."
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"body": "[AI memo 194](http://bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/ai/aim/AIM-194.pdf), April 1970.\r\n\r\n- TECO 175\r\n"
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