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"body": "I have some patches to DQDEV and RESOLV documented at the end of http://its.victor.se/wiki/dqdev (configuration, mainly)."
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"body": "Thanks. I'll take a look.\n\n-- Eric\n\n\n> On Nov 28, 2016, at 23:38, Björn Victor <notifications@github.com> wrote:\n> \n> I have some patches to DQDEV and RESOLV documented at the end of http://its.victor.se/wiki/dqdev (configuration, mainly).\n> \n> —\n> You are receiving this because you authored the thread.\n> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread.\n> \n"
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"body": "Isn't QMAIL in the COMSAT commit? As far as I can see, KSC; QMAIL 614 is in that commit, and so is .INFO.;QMAIL INFO. "
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"body": "Oh good. I've been LOADing this onto my ITS builds and using it all the time. Kept telling myself that I should do this one next! Thanks for entering a ticket."
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"body": "@eswenson1 Maybe this can be used to foreground the Lisp compiler?"
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"body": "@bictorv I tried your DAYTIME patch, then I downloaded the whole file. In both cases I still saw the bug."
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"body": "Pandora:\r\n> Some of the backup tapes from the various mainframes in Tech. Sq. were preserved for a while, and eventually shipped to a firm that specialized in such matters that read them back. Of those tapes, not all of them came through the storage & processing well -- some were unreadable, some had errors in some files, and only some were apparently in good enough shape to be read completely. And while all the tapes that we had left in storage were read in this fashion, the previous processes of choosing which ones to save had not necessarily saved entire dumps; in many cases random sections of full dumps were arbitrarily discarded.\r\n"
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"body": "Hal:\r\n> I've contacted MIT's archivist, who is interested in the issues around digital archiving of this historically important collection. The archives are getting ready to take (copies of) the files. But I think it will be a while before they would be ready to release information due to the need to vet the files for privacy issues.\r\n"
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"body": "I already added these before:\r\n\r\nbin/sys2/ts.emacs -> EMACS; TS > \r\nbin/sys/atsign.hactrn -> SYS; ATSIGN DDT \r\nbin/emacs/emacs.:ej -> EMACS; [PURE] > \r\nbin/emacs/purify.:ej -> EMACS; [PRFY] > \r\nsrc/sysen1/system.999999 -> SYSENG; SYSTEM >\r\n"
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